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Pierwsza czesc zamowili:

ania b
xenka
tyrella
Patitih
luna
dragon
inga
alicja

wlasnie dostalam informacje, ze do 21 czerwca 2006 nalezy zlozyc zamowienie na numer 2.
Zalaczam okladki numeru drugiego, to co zamiawiam to raczej z okladkami rysowanymi,ale to zawsze loteria, moga niekoniecznie je miec i przyslac co bede miec na skladzie, wiec sie nie sugerujcie. W kazdym razie okladki rozne, ale zawartosc ta sama.

Ania B i Inga wplacily mi z gory na ten 2 numer.
Tak wiec jak ktos znow chetny, to juz zna procedure. Tym razem nie bede zakladac, tylko czekam na maila infomujacego, ze dana osoba juz mi zlozyla przelee na te 18 zl i chce 2 nr.
Mozna zamowic 1 numer ponownie jak ktos nowy chce, ale kosztuje on juz 20 zl.
Wychodzi na to, ze komiks jest na razie miesiecznikiem i zamowienia bedzie mozna skladac do 21 kazdego miesiaca na kolejny numer.
PS Xenka wytnij z tego watku wszystkie listy poboczne, nie dotyczace kwestii zamowienia i przeklej je do nowostworzoonego topiku w tworczosci czy gdzies tam o kimiksie xenowym jako takim. Tutaj niech mi zostanie tylko to co dotyczy zalatwiania zamowien, bo sie melanz robi i potem znow cos bedzie nie tak. Chce miec jasnosc i nie pomylic sie co, kto i jak jest z kasa.
PS jeszcze nie sprawdzilam czy wszyscy zamawiacy mi wplacili - w tytule przelewu podajcie tazke sowj nick, bo nie mam jak rozpoznac kto jest kim <g>

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a tutaj 3 obrazki z wnetrza pierwszego numeru, a wlasciwe 4 plansze (nie, nie mam jeszcze tego komiksu, nie, nie mam wiecej obrazkow):

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na razie widac, ze bohaterki maja image sprzed sezonu 4, czyli stara, dobra G z pokojowym dragiem <g>.
Nie wiem czy caly komiks bedzie w tym przedziale czasowym, czy to moze jakies retrospekcje, sny itp. Fajnie, bo lubie stare wersje zarowno G jak i czakramu, ale z drugiej strony po koncowce komiksu Dark Horse troszke dziwnie nie widziec Gabinatora i sai...
Srodkowa plansza zabawna - faktycznie biusty jak melony i jakies takie zyjace wlasnym zyciem - twarze w prawo a piersi w lewo, niemalze w oko czytelnikowi <g>
He, he Xena wyglada jak jakis landlover z chromowanym zderzakiem na karibu! Kto wie, moze i pomaga w walce, jak natrzec czyms takim na przeciwnika, to szans nie ma

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Aha, czyli poza Inga nikt nie chce kolejnego numeru?
Wlasnie przelecialam historie konta i nie mam zadnych przelewow na drugi numer.
Co do wplacenia za numer pierwszy, to odnotowalam, ze kasa wplynela mi juz od:
Dragon - 22 maja
inga - 22 maja
tyrella - 31 maja
luna - 5 czerwca
alicja - 19 czerwca
xenka ma dac kase osobiscie mnie albo lash lub misiakowi
czyli wychodzi na to, ze nie mam nic od ania b i Patitih
dziewczyny wplacalyscie cos?
ktos mi jeszcze slal info, ze mi wplacil kase oa razu na kolejny numer, wydawalo mi sie, ze ania b, ale nie mam sladu po tym w historii przelewow, wiec moze to nie ona - nie mam teraz dostepu do archiwum na drugim komputerze. Nie mam tez nic w skrzynce mailowej od was...

Lashana

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No kochani, tak bawic sie to nie bedzieny.
Zalozylam kase, po miesiacu w miare jeszcze cierpliwie i grzecznie pytam co sie dzieje z osobami, ktore mi nie wplacily. Sle listy na privy. I co?
I nagle konczy sie dialog, a dluznicy udaja, ze nie wiedza o co chodzi albo gorzej - gluchna, slepna i nie racza na te maile/msg odpowiedziec.
A ja tego, b_a_r_dz_o, b_a_r_dz_o nie lubie.
Ignorowania w momencie kiedy sprawe powinno sie jakos wyjasnic, jak porzadni ludzie, a nie jak male dzieci.
Tak nie postepuja Xenici.
Aniab - przyjelam do wiaodmosci twoja epistole na gg. Poczekalam 5 dni, Pieniedzy nadal nie mam ani jakiegokolwiek dowodu, ze kiedykolwiek byly wplacane.
Patith - tak podobono nie chcialas miec u mnie dlugow, tak ci sie spieszylo. Poslalam numer konta i cisza. Poslalam zapytanie na forum i cisza. Poslalam maila i cisza.
Bardzo sie zawiodlam.
Raczej nie macie co liczyc na moja pomoc w przyszlosci.

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Pieniadze za pierwszy numer komiksu od Patith wplynely do mnie 27 czerwca. Od AniB wciaz nie mam pieniedzy ani odzewu. Chyba ze tak jak Xenka miala to zrobic, przekazala pieniadze na fescie.

Czysto informacyjnie podaje, ze numer 3 komiksu mozna zamawiac do 18 lipca.

Prawdopodobnie kazdego miesiaca do takiej daty bedzie mozna zamawiac kolejne numery. Po tej dacie numery wczesniejsze sa dostepne do zamowienia, ale w cenie wyzszej, tak ok 20 zl za komiks plus koszty wysylki 5 zl, jezeli ma byc to pojedynczy numer, a nie wysylka wplacona na konto wczesniejszych (tak jak pisalam, w przesylce za 5 zl na terenie kraju mysle, ze da sie upchnac z 5 komiksow bez szkody dla nich i bez podwyzszenia kosztow).
Jezeli ktos bedzie zainteresowany, to prosze o wplate na konto przed uplywem terminu i potwierdzenie tego do mnie mailem. W tytule przelewu MUSZA byc podane informacje takie jak: oplata za komiks XWP Dynamite numer, ksywka. W topiku maila tak samo (zeby trafil mi do odpowiedniego folderu, a nie zginal w tysiacach maili grup dyskusyjnych xwp, na ktore jestem zapisana), zas w jego tresci dane adresowe, na ktore komiks mam slac i ewentualna informacja czy od razu, czy zbierac kilka numerow i dopiero.

Xenka

Ja sie jeszcze zastanawiam. Jednak co miesiac 20 zl to zarowno duzo jak i nie duzo...
Spoko,mam jeszcze czas. Szkoda tylko,ze nie ma tego pierwsze numeru

Bo jak sie okaze,ze to chala a ja zamowie kolejne to puszcze kase w błoto

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no wiesz, to zawsze ryzyko. Ja tez nie wiem co bedzie, ale kupuje. Jak nie bedzie mi sie podobac, to zrezygnuje po 5 numerach, ale znajac siebie, pewnie nie zrezygnuje tak dlugo jak beda to wydawac Smile

Jezeli bedzie choc troche podobne graficznie do Red Sonji (a rysownicy maja byc z tego podworka takze) to dla mnie juz warto. A jak jeszcze zaangazowaliby Deodato oraz do scenariuszy porzadne ekipe znajaca sie na serialu, to juz miodzio.

Xenka

szkoda,ze przegapilam numer 2

Ja chyba nie dam rady tego nie kupowac. Po prostu cos mnie skreci

Ale spoko,jeszcze sie naradze,choc jestem juz na 70% pewna,ze kupie. Warto miec taka perelke w swojej kolekcji Wink

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Nie no, czy ja pisze do was po chinsku czy jak? Wiem, ze potrafie, ale jestem pewna, ze do tej pory wrzucalam tutaj informacje w jezyku rodzimym i literami lacinskimi pisane.

Xenka - wez sobie przeczytaj to co napisalam na teamt numerow zaprzeszlych.

Ktos - czy ja sie moge dowiedziec co to za dziwo jest pt. "AMABERCZYK FANKA XENY", bo mam takie cos w tytule przelewu i KURNA nic mi to nie mowi. Ani kto to jest, ani jaki numer, jedyne co mowi, to to, ze mam ochote tej osobie tradycyjnie polamac nogi i wsadzic sai w kazdy otwor <g> (czyli 6-7 w zaleznosci od plci Evil or Very Mad

) Czy ja niewyraznie napisalam co ma byc w tytule, w korespondencji, w topikach?

Tyrella

Aaaa, Res, dostalas moze juz przelew ode mnie? I czy dostalas maila z potwierdzeniem? Bo cholerny onet muli i czasem ode mnie maile nie dochodza ;( Wole sie spytac...
Xenka, skasuj to pozniej

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Tyrella

Chodzilo mi o zaplate za nr 2 i 3

nvm...

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Tyrella - wplata za 2 i 3 numer wplynela - 10 lipca.

Nadal nie uzyskalam odpowiedzi kto to jest AMABERCZYK FANKA XENY", jezeli ta osoba tego nie wyjasni, to nie dostanie komiksu. A ja nie bede juz wiecej pytac i prosic, bo sadze, ze wystarczy. Jak ktos chce to prosze sie zainteresowac, a jak nie to jego strata.

Xenka - Lash mi przekazala, ze dostala od ciebie pienianiadze na numer 1 i mam juz je na koncie.
Dzis jest 15 lipca, jak rozumiem nie zamawiasz numeru trzeciego (pieniadze powinnam za niego miec juz na koncie, a nie mam, 17 lipca sle zamowienie (kolo 22:00, zeby 18 lipca byly juz faktycznie zlozone u wydawcy jak sobie tego zyczy), wiec jezeli w poniedzialek bede miala pieniadze na koncie to zamowie i dla ciebie, jezeli nie bede miala, to nie zamawiam i bedziesz mogla zamowic pozniej po 20 zl, sorry, ale nie mam teraz pieniedzy na zakladanie, a dwa tygodnie to chyba byl wystarczajaco dlugi okres czasu, zeby sie zdecydowac i dokonac wplaty tak, zeby przed 18 lipca byla u mnie na koncie).

Xenka

No spoko,nie ma problemu. Więc wychodzi,że będę płacić ok. 30 zł,spoko Wink

Ja po prostu się długo zastanawiałam,ale się już zastanowiłam i uznałam,że chcę kupić. I dziś się dopiero zdecydowałam tak na dobre. Więc spoko,kasa i tak od dzisiaj do 18. nie dojdzie,więc trudno,zapłacę wiecej,poza tym nie mam numeru Twojego konta,więc jak możesz to mi podaj na PW bo ja siedzę na niewidoku na gg i Ty też i obie nie wiemy kiedy jesteśmy Wink

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Komiksow jeszcze nie mam, ale Amerykanie juz moga sie nimi cieszyc. Ponizej pierwsze wrazenia KT, zalozycielki Whoosha, wiec rzetelne.
Generalnie mnie wychodzi, ze warto Smile

Uwaga SPOILERY - fabula punkt po punkcie.

So I haven't seen any of us talk about the comic book. So I'll start.

Okay, I've never reviewed a comic book before. But then before my XWP
obsession, I had never reviewed a con before either. Heck I had never GONE to a
con before nor ever imagined I ever would. But I've always lived by the belief
that not having done something before doesn't mean you shouldn't do it now.
Which of course leads to the fact that ya gotta start somewhere. I guess it
would be smart to check out other comic book reviews to see what people focus
on. But that's for sissies! So, here goes.

About five days ago I called up my comic book shop (whose door I haven't
darkened in about three years or so, having cleaned out their entire stock of
leftover Xena stuff sometime around 2003) and asked if they had the Xena comics
yet. (Yes, I had already called them twice and kept getting reassured that they
would be carrying them.) And the young woman on the phone, positively
breathless with joy at them being in, squealed in great delight, "Yes-they're
here! Arrived today!"

(This is one thing that has changed since 2003-girls didn't use to work
there-but now in 2006, there were a couple of them pacing around the store when
I got there, straightening the books and stocking shelves. It was all just
always boys before.)

Of course I immediatly raced down there and bought two copies of each cover.
There are three--two drawings, one photo.

The most eye-catching one to me is a rendition of a glaring Xena. Actually, it
being a rather robust and zaftig Xena, the eye of the viewer just can't help
bouncing from her gorgeous blue eyes to her bulging breastplate. The bulging
breastplate arcs up from a rather waspish (for our Xena) waist. Xena manages to
glare at the viewer with not just her eyes but, depending upon where your eyes
are bouncing at the moment, her breastplate manages to glare into the viewer's
eyes also. It is apparent that not just Xena but also her whole costume has
many skills. It's quite a compelling cover. Here are the two drawn covers:

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Click on the right one of Xena. Okay-remember that posture/presentation. Now
look here:

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Is there not a decided resemblance? I therefore cannot help but think of this
cover as the "Pouter pigeon Xena cover."

In the other drawn one, with the odd way Xena is holding her sword with both
hands, one on the handle and the other on the blade, her sword thus stretches
horizontally across the cover. Zeus and Ares are above the sword and Gabrielle
and Joxer are drawn below it. Xena's sword is a true horizon, dividing heaven
and earth. Oddly enough, Zeus's head is actually the largest and most central
figure on this cover.

The photo one is from Sins of the Past and I believe was actually used already
on one of the Dark Horse comics. Oh, here it is-the second one from the top on
the left. It was a Topps one. And it was actually a Hercules one-but it's
flopped on the new Dynamite one.

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Of the three covers I like Xena: Warrior PouterPigeon the best.

I was talking with a Xena friend about the comic books the other night and she
mentioned that these types of comic books are all about the artwork. That the
characters and the story should be most strongly presented through the
pictures-it's the drawings that sell both the story and the book. Note, she was
of course talking about traditional super hero comics and more specifically,
the fantasy/sci-fi genre comics, not the adult themed ones like Maus and not
ones like Little LuLu or Archie.

Having gone through the comic, I realize she's absolutely right. Having heard
her say this, it's obvious, but it never reached out and grabbed me before. The
most effort and meticulous attention is spent on the visuals. This is what is
set out to capture the viewer. (I just realized that I said "viewer" not
reader. Heh.) Which at the bottom therefore means that comic books are more
like films than they are like books.

Okay, so let's see what's going on in here.

Hmmm. The first page is very stylized eh? Simple though crowded plain
rectangular panels, no odd angles, no in your face huge faces with extravagant
expressions exploding on the page. I did get excited seeing the Egyptian gods
in the story though-figuring that it might be post FIN--Rob set up the return
of Xena so transparently in FIN, with Gabrielle carrying Xena's ashes and
heading for Egypt, land of a state religion that invested so much of their
belief system in reincarnation and an anticipated and expected return to life.

But that was NOT the reason it opened in Egypt with both Egyptians and Greek
gods and priests interacting. Them being there seems to be just a fluke OR they
are totally ignoring the fact that Xena died before the grrls took off for
Egypt. Oh but wait--Gabrielle is wearing her outfit from the early seasons-the
BGSB, not the red outfit of the later seasons. So perhaps this was an earlier
tour of Egypt--from the first time they met that little flirt Cleopatra.

Okay, next two pages, more typical Sturm und Drang of the comic world. Big
figures, slashing action, sinking boats, attacking monsters. And then when you
turn that page over-one picture takes up both sides of the next two pages. It's
a close up of a guy trumpeting out and pointing to, "Xena, Warrior Princess!!"
And on the right page is a drawing of the zaftig Xena and a marching Gabrielle,
both looking so stiff and "presented" that it appears they might have just been
carted out of Madame Tussauds' wax museum and set on board the ship.

This start reminded me very strongly of the teaser for the show. It had that
feel.

Next couple of pages, Xena fights, Xena makes smart alecky comments as she
fights, Gabrielle fights and chats with Xena, Xena whips the chakram out (and
in the comic, it goes, "Wiff Wiff Wiff" instead of "Whoosh Whoosh Whoosh") and
in the next couple of pages, the hydra headed sea monster eats Xena. She's
giving out muffled protests in his head and then we see her sword slicing up
through its skull from the inside out. Cut to commercial-well, an advertising
page in the middle of the comic. It takes a bit to figure out what the heck
this is a picture of, but I suddenly realize it's the Lone Ranger, inexplicably
wearing his mask just above his belly as if it were a fanny pack. There is a
new Lone Ranger comic book coming out apparently.

Now, this clump of pages would be analogous to act 1 EXCEPT that instead of
leaving Xena in danger as most XWP act ones did, we see her already saving
herself. (Scowl. Does THAT sustain our interest through the commercials? I
think not.)

Okay back from commercial. Xena's out of the monster, Gabrielle comes by in a
boat, a bit of snappy patter and then suddenly we get a BIG Joxer face. He
looks almost stoned. It's a "BIG MOMENT". I'm sure they knew that Joxer, though
loathed by many in the online community, was a huge hit with the regular and
far more massive casual fandom. So the moment Joxer appears is treated kind of
like the moment Scarlett O'Hara appears in "Gone With The Wind", i.e.,
ultimately (after a zoom in in "Gone With The Wind"), we get a big tight
close-up face shot.

Then more snappy patter, picking on Joxer and floating dead hydra monsters in
the foreground.

More patter, Xena's dawning realization of what's going on and pertinent
questions from Joxer and Gabrielle.

No Xena in the next couple of pages-we see Zeus accepting the Egyptian gods'
offer (sent through a lovely ambassador) to stop the war and just pick two
fighters to fight and let their battle decide the conflict. (Yeah, like the war
wouldn't break out again the minute the individual fight is over. Snort!)

Okay, another commercial, this time for the Highlander comic.

Back from the commercial, X, G & J find Autolycus tied to a stake, being
threatened by some locals from whom he has stolen some money. (Not very
creative a scam.) Xena wants to leave him there, Gabrielle reminds her he's
their friend, Xena agrees reluctantly to help him get away. The locals don't
like that idea. Gabrielle warns the locals that Xena is not to be messed with
being "practically undefeatable" and they reply that their hero is just like
Xena. Their hero is a huge hulking dude named Levitriol, easily twice Xena's
size, who suddenly appears and who thinks he'd like to take X&G to be his new
wives. Xena doesn't agree.

Next page we're back in Olympus.

Various gods are discussing who should be their champion. Zeus runs down a list
of boys. Hades suggests Callisto. There's a image of Callisto in one of those
seeing water bowls. Ares of course suggests Xena.

They spy Xena taking on Levitriol in their seeing bowl. Zeus likes the look of
the big boy and asks who he is. Someone "off page" praises him highly, telling
of his amazing deeds of strength and warrior ability. In the next panel, we see
Ares (still or also) praising Levitriol. But in a very dissonant moment, Ares
says, "Levitriol may very well be the strongest mortal in all of our lands. HE
would make a SUPERB champion." Excuse me? Ares figuring that someone else would
be a better warrior than Xena is? No way. Ares would be the one arguing for
Xena for sure. That was a real clanging off moment.

Zeus watches Xena and Levitriol fight for a bit and then declares that anyone
who could defeat Levitriol would be a formidable champion.

Fight fight fight, then Xena grabs Levitriol's arm and flips him head over
heels through the air. There is a squishing type sound effect, spelled,
"SLUTCH" and Xena's face shows disgust as she lets out an "Ewwww!"

Cut to Zeus standing with arms crossed and saying, "Hmmmm. Yes. HER."

Flip over to the next page and at the top is a close-up of Gabrielle's face as
she says, "Oops". This is superimposed over a full page drawing of Levitriol
impaled on the top of Gabrielle's staff where he landed after being tossed by
Xena. We see Zeus's hand cutting into the corner of the bottom of the page,
pointing to Gabrielle as he says, "SHE will be my champion."

End of story. Well, end of what-act one?

Kind of short, I thought.

I think this was okay. I'm not of course very objective where anything Xena is
concerned. Of course I thought it was okay. The drawings were not particularly
striking as looking exactly like or even very much like Lucy, Renee, Ted, Bruce
or Kevin. But they were of course obviously X, G, J, A and A.

I thought the smart alecky comments were very like the show. And the classic
XWP pattern was there-first fight in the teaser, second big fight in act one.

The drawings seemed pretty typical to me. Different sized panels, sometimes odd
angles, big faces peering into the reader's eyes, malevolent overpowering
inhuman monsters, all that stuff. My other Xena comics are all out in the shed
somewhere-I didn't go searching for any to check against this series to see if
there's any obvious differences.

I'll definitely buy the next one but of course I would buy the next one no
matter what this one was like.

The last page of this book showcases covers of the new Battlestar Galactica
comic-hopefully MORE Lucy characters in new comics eventually! Yay!

I suddenly realized as I was writing this and looking at the book again that
Gabrielle also has her season 1-3 hair. Perhaps the Gabfan in Clones was their
XWP expert. (Damn-even in a comic book, all I ever notice is Xena. . .)

Right next to the Xena comics in my store was a new Evil Dead comic with Bruce
as Ash of course on the cover. Some classics just endure forever I guess.

And on Xena's other side was the new Red Sonya comic-Red wears bubble wrap to
protect her tender parts. I giggled out loud when I saw that outfit. Just
imagine how much popping must go on when SHE fights.

I went back into the store yesterday to find that there were only two comics
left. The owner told me they were amazed at how quickly they had sold. He said
he wasn't sure if it would go or not and of course they were delighted with how
successful a start it had. Well, at least in Fairbanks. My question is, if
there are so many Xena fans in Fairbanks, how come I don't know any?

One other thing-I heard him talking to someone else about how his sales in
general were down. Because so many of his customers were now overseas, fighting
in Iraq. That intrigued me-I hadn't really thought about military folk being
comic fiends. Nor had I thought about how far the ripples of impact go when you
live in a small military town and the local boys and girls are sent away to
war.

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O 23:00 dzis idzie zamowienie na numer 4.
Ostatnia wplate jaka mam na koncie za komiksy to numer 2 i 3 dla Tyrelli oraz stale zlecenie od Yselle (czekam zdaje sie na przelew?).
Tak wiec zamawiam jeden egzemplarz dla siebie i jeden dla Yselle nr 4.

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W tym miesiacu nie bedzie numeru 5. W zamian tworcy zdecydowali sie wydac numer specjlany tzw. annual, czyli zamknieta, specjalna historie, rysowana przez specjalnych rysownikow i z fabula zupelnie bez zwiazku z tym co pokazano w dotychczasowych 4 zeszytach. Taki bonus wydawniczy, stosowany w branzt komiksowej, jak np. Predator v Batman. Co by bylo gdyby itp.
i UWAGA, ten zeszyt jest zamawiany dodatkow poza glownym nurtem serii i kosztuje 25 zl!
Wiec jak ktos to chce to poprosze o przeslanie pieniazkow do 20 wrzesnia najpozniej. (Yselle, jezeli chcesz ten annual to poprosze o odzielna wplate na niego).
Spoznialscy moga tez zamowic wczesniejsze numery (1-4) w cenie 20 zl za zeszyt.

W wydaniu specjalnym jak widzicie Xenie przyjdzie sie zmierzyc z kosmita Smile

PS do konca wrzesnia powinny dotrzec do mnie numery 1 komiksu XWP. Wtedy tez poprosze o decyzje, kto chce, zeby mu przeslac od razu, a kto chce czekac az zgromadzi sie wiecje numerow. Oczywiscie nie dotyczy to tych, ktorzy zamowili tylko pierwszy numer.

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PIERWSZY numer komiksu przyjechal.
Prosze mi tu napisac, ktore z was chce, zeby mu slac od razu (moze zmienilo zdanie), a ktore chce, zeby mu poslac z wieksza iloscia (jezeli zamowilo nr 2 i 3 np). Tak bedzie mi latwiej.
W watku macie napisane kto zamowoil, ktora czesc i pewnie sami tez pamietacie.
PS AniaB i co i znowu zlewka? A potem znow teksty do mnie, ze niby nie odpowiadam na posty, czy malo wyraznie? Kto komu... Czekam na skan.[/code]

Tyrella

Do mnie wyslij wszystkie 3 jak juz beda, z gory dziex :}

Luna

Ja zamawiałam tylko 1 Wink

aniabyczek

Patitih

Only one